Babs,
A couple of things come to mind when gender swapping:

Leaders need to understand that those they twirl appreciate being stopped and pointed in the right direction. This is an additional level of responsibility.
In order to do that leaders need to know they will use first their left and then their right hand, changing hands over the lady's head as she twirls, bringing joined hands down to the side to face in correct direction.

See you at Moondance!

Charley

BTW I have some great new dances listed on my website: www.charley.8m.com



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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:45:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Laur <lcpgr at yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [Callers] workshop ideas
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Barb,
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It's always fun to watch the gents do that first ladies chain in reverse role.
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I agree with David's comments, that sometimes its just fun to catch them by surprise.
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Ah-ha moments for both genders are how important it is to help your partner, guide them into a move or the next position, or ending in the position that fits the figure.
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Limp noodles are a good point when they reverse.
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Positioning - considerations with height and girth.
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Some of these things are incidental to the gender workshop, but it all counts.
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Laurie Pietravalle
MI
--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Barbara Groh <barbaragroh at bellsouth.net> wrote:


From: Barbara Groh <barbaragroh at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Callers] workshop ideas
To: callers at sharedweight.net
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:59 PM


Hey, y'all,

I'm going to be facilitating a "gender-swap" w.s. at Moondance in a few days.? I've never been to a workshop on this topic, and I thought I would solicit ideas from the group.???Has anybody been to (or perhaps led) a gender-swap session????Any gems you can share with me on what worked well or what didn't?

Thanks!!
Barbara

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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:27:23 -0500
From: Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti at gmail.com>
To: callers at sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Gender Swapping
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Barbara,

The two things that are most confusing when changing genders are the chain
and the swing.

For the chain, you might review courtesy turn and also the twirl. Make sure
twirlers know their hand should be directly over the head of the twirlee,
and their hand should remain open (not gripping).

When I mentioned to one group that the twirler's hand should remain open, a
roar of women's voices said "Yes!" and I just added, "gentlemen, the
twirlees have spoken..."

--Jerome





> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:59:44 -0500
> From: "Barbara Groh" <barbaragroh at bellsouth.net>
> To: <callers at sharedweight.net>
> Subject: [Callers] workshop ideas
> Message-ID: <5FA24AD8CD704FACAB0B65CA47B4C4AC at Babs>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>        reply-type=original
>
> Hey, y'all,
>
> I'm going to be facilitating a "gender-swap" w.s. at Moondance in a few
> days.  I've never been to a workshop on this topic, and I thought I would
> solicit ideas from the group.   Has anybody been to (or perhaps led) a
> gender-swap session?   Any gems you can share with me on what worked well
> or
> what didn't?
>
> Thanks!!
> Barbara
>
> --
> Jerome Grisanti
> 660-528-0858
> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>
> For the good are always the merry,
> Save by an evil chance,
> And the merry love the fiddle
> And the merry love to dance. ~ William Butler Yeats
>


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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 15:27:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Galipeau <red72impala at yahoo.com>
To: Caller's discussion list <callers at sharedweight.net>
Subject: Re: [Callers] Gender Swapping
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If the group is alert, what my dance partners and I occasionally enjoy, is memorizing both roles in the dance, then each iteration when there is a swing your partner, we swap gender roles.
ie: first swing I lead, then the next time we come back to swing my partner immediately takes the lead role and swings me.? Some dances are challenging and if the grey matter is slow, or it is late in the evening this can really snafu the line.
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Chris Ricciotti has a great web resouce on Gender Free Contra on this web site.
http://www.lcfd.org/Articles/GFManual/index.html
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Mark Galipeau
Queer Contra Dancer
We swing both ways, and then some.


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Jerome Grisanti <jerome.grisanti at gmail.com>
Subject: [Callers] Gender Swapping
To: callers at sharedweight.net
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 2:27 PM


Barbara,

The two things that are most confusing when changing genders are the chain
and the swing.

For the chain, you might review courtesy turn and also the twirl. Make sure
twirlers know their hand should be directly over the head of the twirlee,
and their hand should remain open (not gripping).

When I mentioned to one group that the twirler's hand should remain open, a
roar of women's voices said "Yes!" and I just added, "gentlemen, the
twirlees have spoken..."

--Jerome





> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 19:59:44 -0500
> From: "Barbara Groh" <barbaragroh at bellsouth.net>
> To: <callers at sharedweight.net>
> Subject: [Callers] workshop ideas
> Message-ID: <5FA24AD8CD704FACAB0B65CA47B4C4AC at Babs>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>? ? ? ? reply-type=original
>
> Hey, y'all,
>
> I'm going to be facilitating a "gender-swap" w.s. at Moondance in a few
> days.? I've never been to a workshop on this topic, and I thought I would
> solicit ideas from the group.???Has anybody been to (or perhaps led) a
> gender-swap session????Any gems you can share with me on what worked well
> or
> what didn't?
>
> Thanks!!
> Barbara
>
> --
> Jerome Grisanti
> 660-528-0858
> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>
> For the good are always the merry,
> Save by an evil chance,
> And the merry love the fiddle
> And the merry love to dance. ~ William Butler Yeats
>
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