Re: Shenandoah Falls

We play that tune a lot for dances, and I've never noticed any  
problem with it. As a caller/musician, I usually choose a smooth  
flowing A part dance  to match the tune to. Similar to Richard  
below,  at least the way we do the B part,  I often choose it to go  
with a petronella dance like Citronella Morning or Salmonella.

Martha Wild


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>    3. Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls (Cynthia Phinney)
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> The University of Chicago, with support from the CDSS Outreach  
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> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:40:36 -0400
> From: "Cynthia Phinney" <cynth at gwi.net>
> To: "'Shared Weight'" <callers at sharedweight.net>
> Subject: [Callers] Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls
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> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I've noticed on more than one occasion when Sheandoah Falls has  
> turned up in
> a medley that the B-part of the dance falls apart (as in things not
> happening in the right rhythm) and I have to call constantly until  
> the tune
> changes. I've seen this with more than one dance. The phrasing in  
> the B-part
> of that tune is a bit different from standard. Does anyone have a  
> suggestion
> of a dance that might fit well with that tune? (and/or can you  
> think of
> other tunes with similar phrasing in the B-part? Could be it's just  
> not a
> good standard medley tune for dancing..)
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> -cynthia
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> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:46:45 -0400
> From: Richard Allen Fischer <richardallenfischer at verizon.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Callers] Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls
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> I've never noticed that--as a dancer, musician or caller. Shenandoah
> Falls seems to work well with dances that have Petronella balances
> and spins in the B part. (E.g., Tica Tica Timing or Balance to My  
> Lou.)
>
> RAF
> On Aug 21, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Cynthia Phinney wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I've noticed on more than one occasion when Sheandoah Falls has
>> turned up in
>> a medley that the B-part of the dance falls apart (as in things not
>> happening in the right rhythm) and I have to call constantly until
>> the tune
>> changes. I've seen this with more than one dance. The phrasing in
>> the B-part
>> of that tune is a bit different from standard. Does anyone have a
>> suggestion
>> of a dance that might fit well with that tune? (and/or can you
>> think of
>> other tunes with similar phrasing in the B-part? Could be it's just
>> not a
>> good standard medley tune for dancing..)
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> -cynthia
>>
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> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:02:29 -0400
> From: Jeff Kaufman <cbr at sccs.swarthmore.edu>
> To: 'Shared Weight' <callers at sharedweight.net>
> Subject: Re: [Callers] Dance for Tune? Shenandoah Falls
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> Cynthia Phinney wrote:
>>
>> I've noticed on more than one occasion when Sheandoah Falls has
>> turned up in a medley that the B-part of the dance falls apart (as
>> in things not happening in the right rhythm) and I have to call
>> constantly until the tune changes. I've seen this with more than one
>> dance. The phrasing in the B-part of that tune is a bit different
>> from standard.
>>
>
> Shenandoah Falls is unusual in that some of the B-part is quite
> synchopated.  The phrasing is still very regular, with well defined
> four beat chunks, but within the chunks the beat might be difficult to
> detect for some.
>
> So if you have a band that really wants to play shenandoah falls but
> you think that the group might not be able to take it in stride, you
> could call something that matches the phrasing well and lets the
> dancers reenforce each other's sense of the beat.  Richard's
> suggestion of petronellas is good, as would any "balance for four,
> move for four" sort of repetition.  Balance and swing would also work
> ok, as the synchopated hard to think about part comes in the middle of
> the swing.
>
> The bigger problem is that the caller generally doesn't know what
> tunes the band intends to play until the band switches tunes.  So you
> generally never have an oppertunity to go "oh?  You'd like to play
> shenandoah falls?  Let me choose a dance that fits."  Instead the best
> you can do is probably tell the band after observing the hall that you
> think it would be best if they avoided synchopated tunes like
> shenandoah falls tonight.
>
> Jeff
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