Mavis, in Lynn's improper variation, where do you do the Carmen thing - A1 w/ Ns? or both then and B1 w/ P? 

Yes, I too thought it was by Lisa Greenleaf - but when I called it in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago, a dancer came up after and told me he thought it was by Kathy Anderson. Trying to discover the truth online, I then found the Paul Balliet reference too... yikes. Carmen seems very popular amongst dance creators! 

I'd love to see all of these Carmen dances to compare them. Anyone have them?

Tina


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> I too learned it as Carmen's Contra by Lisa Greenleaf  
> 
> I use it often but as an IMPROPER Dance more often than
> becket (thanks Lynn A)
> 
> A1) N  B & Swing 
> 
> A2) LL f&b 
>      Ladies  Right AL  1 1/2 
> 
> B1) Partner B & S 
> 
> B2)  Circle Left 3 place 
>        Pass Thru  
>   Next Neighbor  D-S-D
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> B1
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> > From: Richard Allen Fischer
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> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Carmen's Garments
> > To: tfields8 at yahoo.com, "Caller's discussion
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> > Date: Monday, November 17, 2008, 2:25 AM
> > Hmmm...  I've got it as Carmen's Contra by
> Lisa
> > Greenleaf.
> > 
> > RAF
> > 
> > On Nov 16, 2008, at 11:53 PM, Tina Fields wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi callers -
> > > 
> > > I've been calling this goofy, fun dance that
> I
> > learned while dancing as "Carmen's
> Scarf." I
> > want to ascribe it correctly. When I looked online, I
> found
> > references to (w/o the dance) for a Carmen's Scarf
> by
> > Paul Balliet and a Carmen's Hat by Kathy Anderson.
> Do
> > any of you know which one I've got here? Thanks! -
> Tina
> > > 
> > > Carmen?s Scarf				Becket contra
> > > ? 	                                 FUN, E/I
> > > 
> > > A1)	(8)	 Cir L ?, pass thru
> > > 	(8)	DSD next N
> > > 
> > > A2)	(4)	with same N: clap clap, bump bump
> > > 	(12)	Sw
> > > 
> > > B1)	(8)	LL F&B
> > > 	(8)	Women Al-R 1-1/2
> > > 
> > > B2)	(16)	B & Sw P
> > > 
> > > NB: Men empty R pockets 1st!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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